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01-30-2010, 10:20 PM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
About clogging...
One of the best things about .45 ACP, regardless of the JHP design, is that it is pretty damn hard to clog. A .45 usually expands with heavy clothing that would plug up almost anything else. Most of your clogging and failed expansion is prone in .32 caliber and below...with 9mm/.355 cal being sort of in the middle. Another thing is the level of expansion...some clogging doesn't necessarily cause total failure of expansion...especially in 9mm/.355 cal and above, progressively better in .40 cal, and subsequently larger. Some clogging may only retard the expansion...but not cause the JHP to behave like a FMJ.
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01-31-2010, 01:19 AM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
The fear of clogging is precisely why we are told to load our magazines with factory frangibles or a TAP ammo or something like it. Frangibles work really well, I know cuz I have used them on prarie dogs......they literally explode.
 
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02-01-2010, 12:32 AM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
By "factory frangibles", you mean like Glaser?
We don't use TAP because they don't seal their primers or case mouths. That'd be bad juju sometimes.
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02-01-2010, 12:37 AM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
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Thats good to know!
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02-01-2010, 01:21 AM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
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02-06-2010, 10:07 PM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
I'm thinking it depends on the quality of the sealant...like any other components....now, not much about Wolf says quality to me.
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02-07-2010, 02:18 PM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
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02-07-2010, 07:02 PM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
Me too....that's the only Wolf I buy
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02-07-2010, 09:34 PM
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02-08-2010, 11:06 AM
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02-08-2010, 11:47 AM
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Re: .45 acp ammo for self defense.
Looked ta me like the general consensus
was 'No'. With a bit of thread drift
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02-08-2010, 01:32 PM
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Well...this might be one of those kind you cant win scenarios...  I have seen reports and will get em if needed, of effects per kinetic energy as relates to effects of air pressure and related caused by hollow point use....in short....impact... The " slow" yet powerful 45.acp 230 grain ball jacketed or jacketed HP is an effective self defense round , in my opinion... Now, that said, no longer a reserve PD or such and prone to varied situations...etc...I live in, travel in, and would most likely "use" my .45 inmy current surroundings....dense, dense, did I say dense..? heavily populated city surroundings... If indeed I have to stop someone....I ..note " I " carry HP to not only stop someone, but in a hope I "may" minimize other casualties to innocent people and property...etc.. In my surroundings, to carry a 10, or hot 9 and use supersonic or near type rounds is just not what " I " have determined is needed for me to feel safe and " defend" myself.... I have seen reports....I have read them...I have also " been out after dark " ..I dont care if your wearing "two" of my old ensign " P Coats " six sweaters and aunt Sally's bath robe....when I hit you....you wont have same desire to cause me harm as initially.... As said...I have seen MANY reports and forensic wound studies...etc...and I really believe a topic is OK to talk about....fine, fine, but anybody who really, really has an issue with 45.acp ball or HP doing it's job at nominal distance and proper hit areas...as would relate to "penetration" etc per clothing, tissue, etc...really needs to quit fooling around with this and start carrying and practicing with either a 45 long colt ( actually will surpass 44 mag..always has ) or a hot 10mm........ I dont know what else to say..... Also..yes , the wolf ammo...? I have seen many signs in ranges..."no wolfe" ammo...etc..One loader told me they dont want the brass from them or rusky etc....steel I guess....? 1shot
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